[coolwhip]

I've found others also wanting to be able to adjust or tilt the seats forward.  I made two modifications to my 2018 Venice to address this.

First, I wanted the driver's seat to tilt more forward (the back more upright).  I loosened the four screws holding the seat down: loosening the front screws only a little, but loosening the rear two enough (without removing them) to slip a 1/2" spacer under the rail at each screw, then retightened all.  This tilted it enough for me.  If you want to tilt more, you would need longer rear screws, and a thicker spacer.

BTW- I found that the four screws holding the seat in place are all 8mm, all the same thread.  The two in the rear are socket head cap screws and reqiure a long rounded 6mm allen wrench.  The front two are round head screws needing a 5mm allen wrench.  The nuts are the loose clip type and it is hard to get the rear ones aligned when retightening, if you have to remove the screws completely.  I changed the front two to socket head cap screws so all match. SHCSs have a deeper socket and are easier to work with.

Second, after watching a Texas Oatmeal YouTube of how he modified his passenger seat to tilt forward on hinges, I did the same to mine.  I did mine a little different, but basically the same.  My hinge may have been different, or his screws located different, but I did not have to drill out the hinge to get the proper location.  I had to trial and error determine the right spacer under thr rear of the seat so it would rest at the proper level.  The only thing to watch for is to put a small rope or cable on it so it can't be tilted forward enough to bump the windshield.


This is the hinge I used:   from Amazon, Black Solo Seat Springs 3" for Harley & Custom Satin Black Barrel Springs   (toss the springs)

[4estmccoy]

Nice! I like a more upright position. Under hard braking I slip forward in the seat, and have to reposition myself.

Now that you've tilted the seat forward are you slipping forward more?

[coolwhip]

Nice! I like a more upright position. Under hard braking I slip forward in the seat, and have to reposition myself.

Now that you've tilted the seat forward are you slipping forward more?

I hadn't noticed the slipping forward.  Maybe I don't brake as hard.  I just don't like reclining when I'm driving.

[Vector-BFC]

Nice! I like a more upright position. Under hard braking I slip forward in the seat, and have to reposition myself.

Now that you've tilted the seat forward are you slipping forward more?

60-0 shorter than any vehicle ever tested, of course you will slide forward.

[RustyTeeth]

I've found others also wanting to be able to adjust or tilt the seats forward.  I made two modifications to my 2018 Venice to address this.

First, I wanted the driver's seat to tilt more forward (the back more upright).  I loosened the four screws holding the seat down: loosening the front screws only a little, but loosening the rear two enough (without removing them) to slip a 1/2" spacer under the rail at each screw, then retightened all.  This tilted it enough for me.  If you want to tilt more, you would need longer rear screws, and a thicker spacer.

BTW- I found that the four screws holding the seat in place are all 8mm, all the same thread.  The two in the rear are socket head cap screws and reqiure a long rounded 6mm allen wrench.  The front two are round head screws needing a 5mm allen wrench.  The nuts are the loose clip type and it is hard to get the rear ones aligned when retightening, if you have to remove the screws completely.  I changed the front two to socket head cap screws so all match. SHCSs have a deeper socket and are easier to work with.

Second, after watching a Texas Oatmeal YouTube of how he modified his passenger seat to tilt forward on hinges, I did the same to mine.  I did mine a little different, but basically the same.  My hinge may have been different, or his screws located different, but I did not have to drill out the hinge to get the proper location.  I had to trial and error determine the right spacer under thr rear of the seat so it would rest at the proper level.  The only thing to watch for is to put a small rope or cable on it so it can't be tilted forward enough to bump the windshield.


This is the hinge I used:   from Amazon, Black Solo Seat Springs 3" for Harley & Custom Satin Black Barrel Springs   (toss the springs)

Was 1/2 inch spacers enough for a bit more support, or did you whish you had done more?

[coolwhip]

I've found others also wanting to be able to adjust or tilt the seats forward.  I made two modifications to my 2018 Venice to address this.

First, I wanted the driver's seat to tilt more forward (the back more upright).  I loosened the four screws holding the seat down: loosening the front screws only a little, but loosening the rear two enough (without removing them) to slip a 1/2" spacer under the rail at each screw, then retightened all.  This tilted it enough for me.  If you want to tilt more, you would need longer rear screws, and a thicker spacer.

BTW- I found that the four screws holding the seat in place are all 8mm, all the same thread.  The two in the rear are socket head cap screws and reqiure a long rounded 6mm allen wrench.  The front two are round head screws needing a 5mm allen wrench.  The nuts are the loose clip type and it is hard to get the rear ones aligned when retightening, if you have to remove the screws completely.  I changed the front two to socket head cap screws so all match. SHCSs have a deeper socket and are easier to work with.

Second, after watching a Texas Oatmeal YouTube of how he modified his passenger seat to tilt forward on hinges, I did the same to mine.  I did mine a little different, but basically the same.  My hinge may have been different, or his screws located different, but I did not have to drill out the hinge to get the proper location.  I had to trial and error determine the right spacer under thr rear of the seat so it would rest at the proper level.  The only thing to watch for is to put a small rope or cable on it so it can't be tilted forward enough to bump the windshield.


This is the hinge I used:   from Amazon, Black Solo Seat Springs 3" for Harley & Custom Satin Black Barrel Springs   (toss the springs)

Was 1/2 inch spacers enough for a bit more support, or did you whish you had done more?

I would probably use a 3/4" or maybe even 1", if I did it again.  I like a more upright back to my seat.  We are talking about the driver's seat tilt.  The reason I only used the 1/2" is by using a horseshoe shaped spacer I could install it without totally removing the rear screws.  Just loosen enough to slip the spacers in.  If you use a taller spacer you will probably need to remove and replace the screws with longer ones.  Once removed they are a pain to align with the "floating nut" under the floor to reinstall.  I made the spacers out of a plastic cutting board.
For the passenger seat tilt I used a 2 X 4 (1-1/2" thick) as a spacer under the rear of the seat.  I removed the slide adjuster that was under the seat.  It came out perfect, but may not be the same for all models of Vanderhalls, or if you use a different hinge on the front.  I'm including a photo.  Note the line to keep the seat from bumping the windshield.  The wood dowel slides up the line to hold the seat up if your working in that area (battery or storage).

[RustyTeeth]

Wow, impressive. I was not going to do the tilt just yet.
But making a magetic panel for 6x9 4way speakers in the cubby.

While i have seats out may go with 3/4 spacers in rear no hinge in front.

Did you stain that wood? Looks nice

[coolwhip]

Wow, impressive.  I was not going to do the tilt just yet.
But making a magetic panel for 6x9 4way speakers in the cubby.

While i have seats out may go with 3/4 spacers in rear no hinge in front. 

Did you stain that wood? Looks nice

No, didn't finish it.  It doesn't show. 
One thing I didn't mention about tilting the driver's seat: be sure you verify, if your using the slider still, that raising the back up doesn't point the front down too much, so the slider handle will hit the floor, or pinch your fingers.

[RustyTeeth]

Wow, impressive.  I was not going to do the tilt just yet.
But making a magetic panel for 6x9 4way speakers in the cubby.

While i have seats out may go with 3/4 spacers in rear no hinge in front. 

Did you stain that wood? Looks nice

No, didn't finish it.  It doesn't show. 
One thing I didn't mention about tilting the driver's seat: be sure you verify, if your using the slider still, that raising the back up doesn't point the front down too much, so the slider handle will hit the floor, or pinch your fingers.

did you change anything on your seat tilt design, I'm getting ready to something about it, have not seen you on much????

[coolwhip]

Wow, impressive.  I was not going to do the tilt just yet.
But making a magetic panel for 6x9 4way speakers in the cubby.

While i have seats out may go with 3/4 spacers in rear no hinge in front. 

Did you stain that wood? Looks nice

No, didn't finish it.  It doesn't show. 
One thing I didn't mention about tilting the driver's seat: be sure you verify, if your using the slider still, that raising the back up doesn't point the front down too much, so the slider handle will hit the floor, or pinch your fingers.

did you change anything on your seat tilt design, I'm getting ready to something about it, have not seen you on much????

NO, I have not changed anything on the tilting seat (passenger) or the one I tilted more upright (driver).  
BTW -  regarding your question about  stain on the wood.  I thought you were talking about the 2X4.  If you were asking about the arm rest wood - yes, it is 3/8" thick maple, with a red oak stain, finished with spar varnish.  I used the vinyl covered metal ones as a pattern.  Spar varnish is not the best product, I'm sure, but it is easy to work with, weather resistant, and easy to touch up.