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Thinking of selling
#1

My 2022 Venice. Just got it a month ago but am seriously disappointed with the whole thing for several reasons. From the buying experience to the driving experience.
Overall, for $30K I feel I could have spent it better on something that was a bit more proven, workmanship would be better and at my age of 60 provide me with more fun than curiosity, fear etc. from the product.
You don't know you like a house until you really live in it. You don't really know if you like a car until you drive it.
The things I'm not happy with are more inconvenience items like the open air cockpit is fun to drive until about 40mph, then the air noise is just ridiculous. Something that could have been solved with a larger windshield. The ever looming cracking windshield, I shouldn't have to spend $500 for an aftermarket windshield to get something that won't crack or break by a bug or rock hitting it, especially if I'm 200 miles from home! Windshield bracket design could have been better in my opinion.
Rear wheel bearing failures? Really? Another design flaw, mistake, oversight...(thanks Paul for your design, I installed it for piece of mind even if they did "fix" the issue) however you want to look at it, it's inexcusable! The initial CV boot issues (Luckily I was told this was supposedly corrected by the 2022 model year), well with the factories reputation thus far with support, response, assistance etc. to dealerships and customers alike....yeah, I'd rather not deal with that to be honest, again, if it had cost $10K, I could see it, but for the price of a proven vehicle, um, no, again not acceptable. The "surging" at cruise speed issue, again, I don't think this should be an issue straight from the factory/dealership. The gas cap breaks and just spins, and unless you know to put downward pressure on it you cannot open it to get gas or to replace it! Come on VH, get your shit together!
The total lack of dealer support that many on this forum and online have complained about is a slap in the face to the people who attempt to support the USA maufacturing, industries etc. but when you see the workmanship on these cars, (minus the finish work that is pretty and on point) you have to wonder if you just paid for the uniqueness and technology behind the design (or lack there of) of some of the parts and solutions to form or fitment?
Off my soapbox, and on to writing a for sale ad to pass my vehicle on to someone else who can enjoy it more than I am able to, due to age, being too critical or just plain disapponted in a supposed American made product.

Sincerely
Danno
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#2

Couldn't agree more! Great fun, but also a PITA with the defects/bad design/whatever. Had mine for over a year, got to drive it about half that time, interspersed with multiple long trips to a dealers who mostly complained about the factory and didn't fix the problems. Hated to sell, but keeping it would have been worse! Still miss it. Sad
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#3

Thanks for the input Patrick. I wondered if anyone else felt the same. One of those live and learn experiences. I've owned enough vehicles to know when to back away and let someone else have the fun and deal with whatever.

Danno
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#4

UPDATE.....

Just posted the listing in vehicles for sale if anyone is interested.


Danno
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#5

(04-26-2022, 01:06 AM)Dannov4v Wrote:  My 2022 Venice. Just got it a month ago but am seriously disappointed with the whole thing for several reasons. From the buying experience to the driving experience.
Overall, for $30K I feel I could have spent it better on something that was a bit more proven, workmanship would be better and at my age of 60 provide me with more fun than curiosity, fear etc. from the product.
You don't know you like a house until you really live in it. You don't really know if you like a car until you drive it.
The things I'm not happy with are more inconvenience items like the open air cockpit is fun to drive until about 40mph, then the air noise is just ridiculous. Something that could have been solved with a larger windshield. The ever looming cracking windshield, I shouldn't have to spend $500 for an aftermarket windshield to get something that won't crack or break by a bug or rock hitting it, especially if I'm 200 miles from home! Windshield bracket design could have been better in my opinion.
Rear wheel bearing failures? Really? Another design flaw, mistake, oversight...(thanks Paul for your design, I installed it for piece of mind even if they did "fix" the issue) however you want to look at it, it's inexcusable! The initial CV boot issues (Luckily I was told this was supposedly corrected by the 2022 model year), well with the factories reputation thus far with support, response, assistance etc. to dealerships and customers alike....yeah, I'd rather not deal with that to be honest, again, if it had cost $10K, I could see it, but for the price of a proven vehicle, um, no, again not acceptable. The "surging" at cruise speed issue, again, I don't think this should be an issue straight from the factory/dealership. The gas cap breaks and just spins, and unless you know to put downward pressure on it you cannot open it to get gas or to replace it! Come on VH, get your shit together!
The total lack of dealer support that many on this forum and online have complained about is a slap in the face to the people who attempt to support the USA maufacturing, industries etc. but when you see the workmanship on these cars, (minus the finish work that is pretty and on point) you have to wonder if you just paid for the uniqueness and technology behind the design (or lack there of) of some of the parts and solutions to form or fitment?
Off my soapbox, and on to writing a for sale ad to pass my vehicle on to someone else who can enjoy it more than I am able to, due to age, being too critical or just plain disapponted in a supposed American made product.

Sincerely
Danno

Couldn't agree more!
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#6

I traded mine in 8 months ago , all for the reasons you stated. It was a fun but expensive pile of crap. I had a good dealer who worked out my problems( no thanks to Vanderhall,) there is little factory support and the owner treats his employees like dirt. No wonder they come off the line with defects. I am back on two wheels and happy.
Yet I miss the VVBJ because it was such fun to drive.
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#7

I am 63. Flew to Dallas, picked up the 2022 Venice GTS and drove it back to Tulsa.
No issues at all, fun, fast.
My dealership is Synergy Cycles and they are OUTSTANDING.
I don't know...maybe it's just me but I love the GTS. Just had Tony build a Brazilian Cherry dash, arm boards and bump knob.
Absolutely beautiful.
My interior is Cranberry. Next, I am having it custom painted solid Ferrari Corso Red, which is very close to Corvette Torch Red.
They will custom paint the Venice GTS logos in black. I have a 16 inch 3m black iron cross decal for the hood, some 3m flying Snoopy decals for the forward sides, much like the ace shoot down score logos on the side of the WWI fighter planes.
The Red Baron look will be AWESOME.
I ordered from England a matching red leather WWI flying helmet, red goggles, ted gloves and scarf.
I am really enjoying the Vanderhall.
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#8

The thrill will fade and the defects will be noticed.
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#9

(06-11-2022, 01:21 PM)Vector-BFC Wrote:  The thrill will fade and the defects will be noticed.
Umm..ok, hope you start feeling better
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#10

(06-12-2022, 12:49 AM)sabbott1958 Wrote:  
(06-11-2022, 01:21 PM)Vector-BFC Wrote:  The thrill will fade and the defects will be noticed.
Umm..ok, hope you start feeling better
I would say the majority of the Vanderhalls built are pretty much trouble free.  I have a 2018 that has been trouble free but it is time to replace some of the lesser quality parts with new higher quality parts before they start failing.  I have been working with Vanderspa, I have the contact information if you wish to work with them on repairs or upgrades.  They are in north Dallas area.
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