[Vector-BFC]

Vanderhall laid off 90% of its workforce in reaction to the virus hysteria. Don't expect normal service any time soon.

[Dnflty]

I really hope that they are able to survive this, and can make a comeback. These are "want" items, and who knows how much play money folks are going to have. There will be a lot of catching up to do, and could be some time before orders for these pick up again. Cross your fingers.?

[Vector-BFC]

My replacement hood arrives at my dealer Monday so they are getting things done, just need to be patient.

[IndyVandy]

So...BNR or Vanderhall parts? what is your suggestion?

[Dnflty]

So...BNR or Vanderhall parts?  what is your suggestion?

I have no experience with the vhp  tune, but I know the bnr  one kicks tail! I think I read somewhere that the bnr  version is rated for 20 more hp. I love the way it shifts also, very positive, no hunting for gears. Maybe others have more insight into the vhp  version? Have fun!!

[IndyVandy]

So...BNR or Vanderhall parts?  what is your suggestion?

I have no experience with the vhp  tune, but I know the bnr  one kicks tail! I think I read somewhere that the bnr  version is rated for 20 more hp. I love the way it shifts also, very positive, no hunting for gears. Maybe others have more insight into the vhp  version? Have fun!!

So you recommend?
Do I need to buy anything additional with the actual $850 tuner?  The website was not clear...I emailed the question but have not heard back

[Vector-BFC]

After warrantee perhaps but for now I'll stay stock.

[Dnflty]

After warrantee perhaps but for now I'll stay stock.

You do not need to purchase another else to install the tune. The unit contains the tune for both the engine and transmission. It comes with the plug that connects to the machine, nothing else to buy. Only takes a few minutes, and the install went perfect! Fuel mileage suffers when being "sporty", but you will definitely feel the difference immediately. Turns the cooling fan on sooner, so the engine runs about 190 to 200 degrees. Happy Riding!

[Fiddyfoe]

After warrantee perhaps but for now I'll stay stock.

You do not need to purchase another else to install the tune. The unit contains the tune for both the engine and transmission. It comes with the plug that connects to the machine, nothing else to buy. Only takes a few minutes, and the install went perfect! Fuel mileage suffers when being "sporty", but you will definitely feel the difference immediately. Turns the cooling fan on sooner, so the engine runs about 190 to 200 degrees. Happy Riding!

Not really a reply to your post, Dnifty, just adding my two cents to the end of this thread. BNR finally came out with their free-standing hand held module so I bought their tune. Again, as has been said, there are two programs, engine and transmission that you can revert back to original any time. I have a bump shifter but the trans program is so good that if I didn't, I'd be sorely tempted to reprogram the trans and call it a day. When the dust settles it's cheaper than the bump shifter with all the stuff that you need with it plus you get a superb tune for the engine if you want it (you will). I had some trouble installing the programs. It hooked up fine and when I turned on the key the module said engine something something loading. Fine, it said that for two hrs until I gave up and turned the key off. As soon as I did the window on the module filled up with more stuff and a loading bar. Turned the key back on quickly but unknowingly got a partial program. Same with the trans prog. Had 4th gear only, no bump, indicated P the whole time, no CC and no 1-6 gear indicator. It did quite well actually in 4th, very torquey and felt like a small block V-8. Went back and reprogrammed. Started and restarted the process a couple times until i got the loading bar to come up from the start. Knew what to look for at that point. Cleanly loaded both programs and haven't looked back. Stuff keeps disappearing too quickly back there now anyway. I'll take their word on the power and torque. First freeway on-ramp I hit I was in triple digits before I knew it. The turbo sounds are much louder when revving and that coupled with a quick-chop silence when throttling down is disconcerting at first in an "oh crap, broke it already" way. Not so, it's a screamer now, literally and figuratively. I figured to get the power up and the temp down it would be dumping in beaucoup fuel. Again, not so much. Went from 38 mpg to 35.5 (-6.5%). Frankly, I expected it to be in the minus 15-20% range. I wasn't acting like an idiot but I wasn't old-ladying it either. Regular driving while punching it a little more than usual to test the warp drive. My temp has not come down as much as advertised. Regularly running just under 210, occasionally down to 205 in certain speed/gear regimes. No further. (With a thermometer gauged in tens of degrees, it isn't an absolute temp for me but merely relative to what's normal). My feet have noticed, though. Maybe it's a Speedster thing (no through ventilation in the fwd cabin) and the floorboards get pretty warm. Should get even better with a cat bypass (out of stock now for months) and some wrap on the pipes. I cut a hole in the bottom of the heater plenum that aims at my feet so no problem in winter. i'm in FL so it's not a huge problem anyway and shouldn't be even in cooler climes. Nonetheless, my feeing overall is , quoting Nike, just do it. Me likee, GI.

[Jerry@BNR]

After warrantee perhaps but for now I'll stay stock.

You do not need to purchase another else to install the tune. The unit contains the tune for both the engine and transmission. It comes with the plug that connects to the machine, nothing else to buy. Only takes a few minutes, and the install went perfect! Fuel mileage suffers when being "sporty", but you will definitely feel the difference immediately. Turns the cooling fan on sooner, so the engine runs about 190 to 200 degrees. Happy Riding!

Not really a reply to your post, Dnifty, just adding my two cents to the end of this thread. BNR finally came out with their free-standing hand held module so I bought their tune. Again, as has been said, there are two programs, engine and transmission that you can revert back to original any time. I have a bump shifter but the trans program is so good that if I didn't, I'd be sorely tempted to reprogram the trans and call it a day. When the dust settles it's cheaper than the bump shifter with all the stuff that you need with it plus you get a superb tune for the engine if you want it (you will). I had some trouble installing the programs. It hooked up fine and when I turned on the key the module said engine something something loading. Fine, it said that for two hrs until I gave up and turned the key off. As soon as I did the window on the module filled up with more stuff and a loading bar. Turned the key back on quickly but unknowingly got a partial program. Same with the trans prog. Had 4th gear only, no bump, indicated P the whole time, no CC and no 1-6 gear indicator. It did quite well actually in 4th, very torquey and felt like a small block V-8. Went back and reprogrammed. Started and restarted the process a couple times until i got the loading bar to come up from the start. Knew what to look for at that point. Cleanly loaded both programs and haven't looked back. Stuff keeps disappearing too quickly back there now anyway. I'll take their word on the power and torque. First freeway on-ramp I hit I was in triple digits before I knew it. The turbo sounds are much louder when revving and that coupled with a quick-chop silence when throttling down is disconcerting at first in an "oh crap, broke it already" way. Not so, it's a screamer now, literally and figuratively. I figured to get the power up and the temp down it would be dumping in beaucoup fuel. Again, not so much. Went from 38 mpg to 35.5 (-6.5%). Frankly, I expected it to be in the minus 15-20% range. I wasn't acting like an idiot but I wasn't old-ladying it either. Regular driving while punching it a little more than usual to test the warp drive. My temp has not come down as much as advertised. Regularly running just under 210, occasionally down to 205 in certain speed/gear regimes. No further. (With a thermometer gauged in tens of degrees, it isn't an absolute temp for me but merely relative to what's normal). My feet have noticed, though. Maybe it's a Speedster thing (no through ventilation in the fwd cabin) and the floorboards get pretty warm. Should get even better with a cat bypass (out of stock now for months) and some wrap on the pipes. I cut a hole in the bottom of the heater plenum that aims at my feet so no problem in winter. i'm in FL so it's not a huge problem anyway and shouldn't be even in cooler climes. Nonetheless, my feeing overall is , quoting Nike, just do it. Me likee, GI.

I don't get on here much, but feel free to email me jerry@badnewsracing.net if you want me to lower the target engine temp further. It's not an exact number I set, just a target. I can lower it some more if you'd like. On the 2020s it's set up even weirder, where its basically just fan power at certain temps, so I can mess with that some too if you want. Just email me and let me know if you decide to change it, but 195-210 is right where you want a fuel injected motor. Any lower than 195 and it won't be able to burn off atmospheric contaminants in the oil.