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Posted by: Brummbar
12-30-2019, 12:46 PM
Forum: Venice Chat
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OK, I need somebody to explain to me this….
As per the BNR website:
BNR Tune 2016-2019 Vanderhall 1.4T is $799.99
But…
BNR Tune 2020+ Vanderhall Venice Blackjack 1.4T is $1199.99
 
And their own product descriptions for both appear to be almost  identical; except for the reported gains are slightly different:
 
·         2016-2019 Venice is possible 60HP / 100 Torque
·         2018 Blackjack is possible 63HP / 92 Torque
 
Given that both types of vehicles have the same 1.4L EcoTec engine and 6-Speed transmission combination I am compelled to ask:
 
If it’s just that the tunes themselves are different – like BNR took second stab at it and got better numbers?  Could the tunes be identical and the numbers just a testing variant? 
 
Will the Blackjack tune (VTune 1.0) work on the earlier Venices - If not, why?     
 
Will the earlier tune (VTune 2.0) work on a Blackjack? And possible save $400.00 and get virtually the same resaults?
 
Finally, should someone who currently have VTune 1.0 have to pay full price to get VTune 2.0?
 
Yes, I an the kind of guy that thinks about the above….SORRY.  And, please do not think I am down on BNR – they and their products are awesome; I just want to make sense of the above.


Brummbar

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Posted by: Brummbar
12-30-2019, 02:19 AM
Forum: New Member Introductions
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I have not bought a Venice yet.  I started/wanted one since the debut of the Speedster.  But, due to issues could not get one until now.....  Unfortunately, it looks more and more like i will get no Speedster at all; I will probably go with a Blackjack.

I like the Venice Blackjack; but, its not my first choice - it is a VERY good choice though; in fact, a younger me may have made it first choice..

My big quarm is that it have no heat and as I get older, that is something VERY much desired.....  Of course, I can and will add the heated seats; but, I am not sure I will or can add a conventional heater.  

Another issue I had and still have is the Factory Service Manual; I live over 100 miles from the closest VH dealer and I feel that having it must be an integral part of the purchase agreement - that continues to be a show stopper.  We will just have to see how that plays out, I guess.

I saw an earlier post about FB, I am not that big a fan of it either.  But, it seemed to be the orchestrated conduit by VH and their dealer network for info and their user-base - maybe in time i will grow to like it???   Time will tell.   I have to use FB mainly because no dealer near me has one and their ability to answer question on and general knowledge of is a bit lacking (actually, the same was true and still is true for the Speedster too.)

But, even with the misgivings above, I would like to have a Venice and will continue to pursue one  -  "ON MAY TERMS".

Here to someday being a contributing owner,

Brummbar

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Posted by: PaulAB
12-29-2019, 12:17 AM
Forum: Show-Off
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    Theme is British-American; ACE Cafe Racer.

I have added a few decals and the cart is loaded with “accessories”.  The most important of which is the bump shifter.        

At Lake Geneva, WI/ /premium only ? Really?

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Posted by: gudgeonpin
12-28-2019, 09:53 PM
Forum: Show-Off
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Here you go-

I removed the lettering on the side and added my own racing strip.

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Posted by: gudgeonpin
12-28-2019, 09:47 PM
Forum: New Member Introductions
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Hi- St. Louis calling in here.  I've had a 2017 Venice for about a year and a half now.  Bought it in Ft. Smith, AR and drove it home.  
Thank you for setting up this forum- I have been looking for one for awhile now.  I don't do facebook, so that group is not an option for me.
Cheers,
Jason

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Posted by: Kendoo
12-26-2019, 03:16 PM
Forum: Exterior & Cosmetic Mods
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Does anyone know the paint code for the ruby metallic?

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Posted by: Kendoo
12-26-2019, 11:46 AM
Forum: Carmel Chat
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Does anyone know the paint code for the ruby metallic ?

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Posted by: Speedster12
12-24-2019, 09:53 PM
Forum: Venice Chat
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Has anyone experienced this code?  My Venice is currently throwing it.

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Posted by: moparjerry
12-17-2019, 02:26 AM
Forum: Show-Off
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These are some wood trims I made for my Venice        

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Posted by: moparjerry
12-17-2019, 02:23 AM
Forum: Show-Off
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I woke up to this the day I was going to leave WI to go to FL for the winter.    

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